Random Ponderings

As I mentioned in a post a while back I have decided to undertake a project in 2010, to try and put together in the form of a book, my thoughts on ‘why youth ministry?’ The goal is to somehow try and nut out, in a more refined way, exactly what I think about youth ministry, its place in the 21st century church and its role in the secular society that we find ourselves living in. The main purpose of this project is to help clarify my thoughts in my own mind. It is to help me better understand what I actually think.

One of the first steps in this process was to ask some close friends in youth ministry to suggest some good books to read so as to expose my mind to the shaping thoughts of the current thinkers and dreamers in the youth ministry circles. From this I have formulated a pretty extensive reading list that I have started to work through. So far this has done exactly as expected, it has opened my mind to the many, many different idea’s and philosophies that exist in the church today. This was to be expected, though I think I naively expected this to not be as challenging to me as it is.

The main thing I am noticing is that any discussion on ‘why youth ministry’ is inevitably and intrinsically linked with a discussion on the future of youth ministry. If youth ministry were not to be part of the future then we wouldn’t bother with they ‘why’. In fact it could be said we only consider the question of ‘why’ something will exist when we have come to the conclusion that not only it will exist, but that it needs to. So really, to discuss WHY youth ministry involves considering what the future of youth ministry will be.

This is where it gets tricky. The more I read, the wider the scope becomes. Every man and his dog seems to have some differing idea’s about what the future holds. Though there are many trains of thought that correlate, as any discussion about future trends there are many trains of thought that do not correlate at all. This therefore requires an element of decision making, which way do I think it will go? This is proving a difficult concept for my mind to consider.

At the moment I am reading a book called ‘Postmodern Youth Ministry’ by Tony Jones. It is a book I remember reading during my theology training and finding to be a fantastic resource and upon re-reading it I am once again challenged by what it asserts. I think what I find most disturbing is how much I resonate with the arguments it presents about post modernity, even if there are significant levels of disagreement dispersed amongst the agreement. What frightens me most though is how unequipped I feel to actually tackle these thoughts and apply them to discussing with people older than me, with more modern thinking patterns, why a postmodern approach to ministry and in particular youth ministry, is so important. I cannot even begin to grasp this in my mind.

I am enjoying the task of focusing my reading in a particular area and certainly intend on completing my 2010 project, but right now my task is definitely growing by the day and definitely making me think this process, for me, may well take much longer than a year to complete. This is not necessarily so bad, but for someone who has grown up in a world of ‘now’ it is hard to imagine keeping myself focussed for a prolonged period of time. We’ll see how it goes. It is enjoyable, if not also thoroughly frustrating!

'Third Places'

I was reading and article over at Phil Cooke’s blog, called “Why “Atmosphere” Matters in Connecting with a Community” and it got me thinking about the trendy phrase ‘third places’. I’ve read a lot about creating third places in emerging church philosophy and the idea’s behind it sound great. For those new to the concept, the basic idea is that people generally spend time at work, at home and at ‘third places’. Good third places sometimes overlap with home and work. The story in Phil’s blog is the story of how Starbucks came to be as successful as it was because it was almost the perfect third place. It allowed for relationship to build, it allowed people to combine work with this, it provided all kinds of benefits OTHER THAN buying and drinking coffee.

The idea of ‘third place’ is behind a lot of missional activity in running coffee shops, or pubs, or other spaces in a missional context. This is great! However another idea for a third place came to mind. It probably is being done somewhere, but is an interesting idea I believe…

Could church buildings be used as third places for people that work ‘from home’?

By this I mean, is it maybe feasible to set up a church building to enable any of its members who USUALLY work from home, or somewhere other than a set office, as a workplace?

I’m having difficulty wording what I mean by this, but the basic idea is to enable believers who normally work from home (or in a coffee shop, or whatever) to ALSO be able to meet together daily?  This wouldn’t really be an option for people who have to work at a specific location, but as the number of home offices has increased maybe this could be an effective use of a church building during the week?

If you know somewhere already doing this I’d love to hear about it!

Thoughts?

Significance vs Prominence

I was reading the comments to a post written on Hamo’s blog, called ‘You’re Probably Not Going to Change the World… Get Over It and it reminded me some thoughts I was having recently about how the world views Christianity. It was interesting to note the discussion on Hamo’s blog, mostly seemingly centred around the difference between ‘significance’ and ‘prominence’. This is was resonated with my recent thoughts.

A common phrase muttered around the world today is ‘the problem with the world is God’ or ‘religion’ or ‘faith’ or ‘Christinaity’. Now, without wanting to get into a discussion about whether or not Christianity is a religion, I do want to lump ALL these statements together for a moment.

In some ways I think that Christinaity suffers from over exposure and a lack of relationship with the world around it. By this I mean the ‘big, super, hyped’ Christianity is very widely known, or prominent, but the dinky little community church which is making a significant difference is not. As Mark Sayers terms it, we live in a ‘hyper-realistic world’ and so often the ways things appear to be is not what they really are.

The funny thing is though, once or twice when i’ve heard somebody say the problem with the world is Christianity or religion, is when i prod a little further the comments are based on parts of the church the particular individual has no DIRECT connection, they just know them because of their prominence. Then when I ask the follow up question ‘what about Christians you KNOW’ they often respond ‘oh them, they are different, I know them’. And there in lies the problem.

Now I am a very firm believer in the local church. I personally believe that God partners with local churches (of nearly every bent and type) to SIGNIFICANTLY change the community they find themselves in. Admittedly not ALL churches live this out successfully, but I do believe God is working in all of them to some degree.

The issue arises when you start to talk about SIGNIFICANT churches, PROMINENT churches and the relationship Joe Bloggs has to either of them.

I believe that God intended for the church to be relational in every way. Does not the bible say you will know his disciples by the love they have for one another? And yet when ‘churches’ become prominent, the relational connection between them and those whose know them is lost. Just take Hillsong. We could sit here until the cows come home arguing about whether or not they are a ‘good church’, but I find most people who make comments about them (me included) are not actually in RELATIONSHIP with them…so how can we really comment? It’s like reading an email from someone you don’t know and getting the wrong idea, because the written word may not actually communicate what was intended. Without relationship, how can we really talk about what is and isn’t significant?

The other problem occurs when cmall, dinky little community churches get wrapped up in seeking PROMINENCE in their community, rather than SIGNIFICANCE. This itself is an entire blog entry, and maybe we will flesh it out later, but I would rather be in a church that has significant, relational links with a smaller section of a community, than be prominent throughout it…because I think in prominence the church loses its ability to communicate through relationship.

I guess my heart in this post is to encourage churches to seek significance, through relationship, in the community they are in. Margaret River, for example, doesn’t need a Hillsong, and we’d be doing the community a diservice if we stove to BE Hillsong. Now, I believe it is possible to be prominent AND significant…but that prominence must be born out of being significant IMO, not as its only product.

Thoughts?

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